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KTUL-DT Problems in Tulsa?

Brian writes:

KTUL channel 8 digital is terrible in Tulsa. Everyone has problems with it and there is no comment by KTUL to address the issue. UHF stations come in just fine. I live in the center of tulsa by the river and everyone I know who has used an antenna has the same issue as me. Do you guys know anything? I would think this would be a major issue to people but no one talks about it. Do the citizens need to take up a collection or something to help out.


14 Responses to “KTUL-DT Problems in Tulsa?”

  1. L.A. responds:

    I agree. It must take a big antenna. It is the only local that does not come in with indoor antenna at the office. I also wish it would be 1080i.

  2. HDPokeFan responds:

    I have had no problems with the channel. However, I get my KTUL digital signal through Cox.

  3. doublej responds:

    I have no problems with it and get it at 7 different family members homes with antenna’s in the attic and outdoors. It comes in fine with a very small outdoor antenna at my sisters inlaws in Glenpool also. It is difficult to get with an indoor antenna because it is high VHF and get ready because KJRH will be switching to VHF channel 8 next year for their final digital assignment when KTUL turns analog 8 off and stays on VHF 10 for their digital channels. KOTV will be moving to UHF45 and OETA will be moving back to VHF 11 from UHF 38 for their final digital channel.

    http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-07-138A2.pdf

    Here is a link to final channel assignments after the analog turnoff.

  4. Dennis Whiteman responds:

    Thanks for the link to the file. If true, that means channels 9 and 13 in Oklahoma City will be moving back to their original vhf channels, which isn’t that bad, though I wish they just stay in the UHF band.

    Dennis

  5. L.A. responds:

    Holy Smoly,
    This is something to think about.

  6. A_Noland responds:

    I get KTUL fairly good with a very large antenna in the attic. The only picture issues I have is when there is lightning. Of course the stations like VHF better because it takes less power.

  7. w0kie responds:

    KTUL-DT is unwatchable in East Tulsa on powered rabbit ears. KTUL-DT is only currently transmitting with a very feeble 7kw signal. That’s probably being done to protect current channel 10 analog stations from interference.

  8. A_Noland responds:

    I don’t think 7Kw is low for that frequency.

  9. A_Noland responds:

    After looking through the document above, I agree, they did get the short end of the stick on broadcast power. I see other channel 10’s with 12-15KW power.

  10. doublej responds:

    It serves 90% of their viewing area and they are at full power. It will change towards the end of the year when they start moving their digital transmitter to the top of the tower in place of the analog.

    I’ve lost the link to the documents that list the permits and plans. Some of the stations will be retrofitting their analog transmitters for digital use and the analog and digital signal will be reduced for a couple of months prior to the changeover as equipment is moved permanently.

    KXII in Ada/Sherman is shutting down their analog signal completely in the fall as they move their digital transmitter to the top of the tower and use part of the analog equipment for the digital signal while that is happening.

  11. ggore responds:

    Most the stations are going to have to go to very low power or shut down entirely for a while when the transition occurs, when they remove the old analog antennas and move the DT ones to the tops of their towers or whatever they have to do. Maybe the HDTVOK site ops or someone could check with the stations as to their plans and let us know. Quite a few cable operators use this site as our information source on the transition, as the stations don’t tell us anything.

    I have noticed that KFOR has been running at much lower power levels the past few weeks as measured here. I am seeing signal dropouts quite often. It’s even affecting the analog translators in western Oklahoma as they use the DT signal to power them now. I don’t know if they are having problems or what, they haven’t returned my calls about it.

  12. doublej responds:

    You can go here for the current info on what the stations are going to do in each market, in terms of power and changing antennas and such.

    http://rabbitears.info/dtr.php

  13. nurho83 responds:

    I live in NW Broken Arrow and have an outdoor powered omni antenna and it’s pretty hit or miss for me. It’s also the only channel I couldn’t get with the antenna indoors on in the attic. If everything’s perfect out it’s fine but a stiff breeze will knock it off the air for me.

  14. 1of1 responds:

    So, does the (doublej responds: April 29th, 2008 at 5:55 pm) information mean all Tulsa stations except KOTV will ultimately have lousy reception like KTUL now?


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Oklahoma City DTV

NetworkDTVStation
NBC27KFOR-DT
IND51KSBI-DT
ABC7KOCO-DT
PAX50KOPX-DT
FOX24KOKH-DT
WB33KOCB-DT
TBN15KTBO-DT
PBS32KETA-DT
CBS39KWTV-DT
UPN40KAUT-DT

Tulsa DTV

NetworkDTVStation
NBC56KJRH-DT
CBS55KOTV-DT
PAX28KTPX-DT
FOX22KOKI-DT
IND49KGEB-DT
UPN42KTFO-DT
ABC10KTUL-DT
IND48KWHB-DT
PBS38KOED-DT
WB55-2KWBT-DT

Ada, OK/Ardmore, OK

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CBS20KXII-DT
NBC26KTEN-DT

Bartlesville, OK

NetworkDTVStation
TBN15KDOR-DT

Cheyenne, OK

NetworkDTVStation
PBS8KWET-DT

Claremore, OK

NetworkDTVStation
IND35KRSC-DT

Eufaula, OK

NetworkDTVStation
PBS31KOET-DT

Shawnee, OK

NetworkDTVStation
IND29KQOK-DT

Surrounding States

Fort Smith, AR

NetworkDTVStation
ABC21KHBS-DT
CBS18KFSM-DT
NBC27KPOM-DT
PBS45KAFT-DT

Wichita Falls, TX/Lawton, OK

NetworkDTVStation
ABC11KSWO-DT
CBS22KAUZ-DT
Fox15KJTL-DT
NBC28KFDX-DT

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