I noticed during the NBC Nightly News and earlier on some other show that KFOR’s DTV crawl was superimposed over an HD broadcast. Previously, KFOR had to drop out of an HD broadcast to run the FCC-mandated crawl over network programming. Do you think they have new equipment? I guess we’ll know when a thunderstorm occurs in the Panhandle…
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| Network | DTV | Station |
|---|---|---|
| NBC | 27 | KFOR-DT |
| IND | 51 | KSBI-DT |
| ABC | 7 | KOCO-DT |
| PAX | 50 | KOPX-DT |
| FOX | 24 | KOKH-DT |
| WB | 33 | KOCB-DT |
| TBN | 15 | KTBO-DT |
| PBS | 32 | KETA-DT |
| CBS | 39 | KWTV-DT |
| UPN | 40 | KAUT-DT |
| Network | DTV | Station |
|---|---|---|
| NBC | 56 | KJRH-DT |
| CBS | 55 | KOTV-DT |
| PAX | 28 | KTPX-DT |
| FOX | 22 | KOKI-DT |
| IND | 49 | KGEB-DT |
| UPN | 42 | KTFO-DT |
| ABC | 10 | KTUL-DT |
| IND | 48 | KWHB-DT |
| PBS | 38 | KOED-DT |
| WB | 55-2 | KWBT-DT |
| Network | DTV | Station |
|---|---|---|
| CBS | 20 | KXII-DT |
| NBC | 26 | KTEN-DT |
| Network | DTV | Station |
|---|---|---|
| TBN | 15 | KDOR-DT |
| Network | DTV | Station |
|---|---|---|
| PBS | 8 | KWET-DT |
| Network | DTV | Station |
|---|---|---|
| IND | 35 | KRSC-DT |
| Network | DTV | Station |
|---|---|---|
| PBS | 31 | KOET-DT |
| Network | DTV | Station |
|---|---|---|
| IND | 29 | KQOK-DT |
| Network | DTV | Station |
|---|---|---|
| ABC | 21 | KHBS-DT |
| CBS | 18 | KFSM-DT |
| NBC | 27 | KPOM-DT |
| PBS | 45 | KAFT-DT |
| Network | DTV | Station |
|---|---|---|
| ABC | 11 | KSWO-DT |
| CBS | 22 | KAUZ-DT |
| Fox | 15 | KJTL-DT |
| NBC | 28 | KFDX-DT |
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Whether they do or they don’t, they certainly SHOULD have this new gear.
It’s nuts that a major network station in a good-size market hasn’t had this capability in place before now. The owners must be real tightwads.
I’ve been seeing that for awhile now so its not exactly new. The real question is will the weather crawl be superimposed over the HD feed versus switching back to SD.
Im lovin the new set and new Logos KFOR as produced. Seems like the garbage channel is spendin a lil bit of money. ever since there equipment failed 2 months ago the channel too me has gotten better.
The set does look nice, but when are they going unveil their HD news broadcast. Their SD conversion is the worst looking in the market…
Dennis
Garbage in Garbage out!! KFOR the Garbage Channel!! Puke SD Video with Wash out Color!!!!!!!
I quit watching KFOR quite some time ago as I consider them anti HD. I have had to relent for the Olympics and I would relent permanently if they get their act together. I hope they do, they have some good people. It’s a shame they are technology poor.
There seems little sign of KFOR getting its act together. Take tonight, for instance, and I’m not just talking about dropping the olympics out of HD for 15-30 seconds at 9:06 PM to put their station logo on the screen because they still haven’t bought the technology to do it on the HD feed.
NBC’s olympic coverage was scheduled to run through 11:30 PM. Apparently, that’s just way too late for the gentle souls at KFOR. They recorded the news at or around 10:00 PM and just played the tape. With an OU gymnast competing for a medal, his watch party was their lead story—recorded about an hour before the results were known. The sportscast didn’t know the results either, just said they were “competing” for a medal.
It was scheduled to be on the air until 11:30 and they couldn’t hang around to do the news at 11:30.
The sad thing is that they’ll get ratings by default because people didn’t turn away at 10PM to watch news on the other channels, so they’ll take this as “confirmation” that they don’t need to do anything right. Once again, NBC hits a home run and KFOR thinks it did all the scoring.
Let me also point out that they’re too cheap to even change the graphics. At the end of the newscast, the copyright graphic at the bottom of the screen read, “Up Next: The Tonight Show”.
The Tonight Show won’t be on until the Olympics are over, but it’s cheaper to pay someone to make the graphic once and use it when it’s wrong than it is to pay for the capability to do something right.
If you’re still waiting for KFOR to get its act together, don’t hold your breath. They make plenty of money doing it all wrong and ignoring you.
Credit where credit is due: on Tuesday night/Wednesday morning, it appears KFOR fixed both of these problems.
Yeah, but I take back what I said about the picture quality. Maybe it was just the swimming, but the macroblocking was terrible during that segment of tonight’s coverage. I have not seen it this bad on USA, CNBC, Universal or the two dedicated HD channels.
Holy crap!
Let the world take note: at 11:01 PM on August 15, 2008, KFOR-DT superimposed its own channel logo (in full color) over the HD picture.
That is, unlike four comments ago, the station did not drop out of HD just to run its “NewsChannel 4″ logo and call letters at the top of the hour.
Of course, last night, they dropped out of HD for 3 minutes to show a crawl telling you that you might need a converter in February 2009. A crawl on the HD channel. That went all the way across the 16:9 screen. So they took it out of HD to run a crawl in 16:9 that anyone seeing it in 16:9 did not need because they already have the equipment.
That’s been par for the KFORse. (oooh.) But tonight, a full-color super-imposed HD logo without dropping to SD. I hesitate to imagine “hope” where KFOR has so often dashed hopes before, but one never knows.
mdeatherage’s “Holy crap!” comment:
“Let the world take note: at 11:01 PM on August 15, 2008, KFOR-DT superimposed its own channel logo (in full color) over the HD picture.”
I noticed that, too, on Sunday night so maybe, just maybe, there’s hope for KFOR yet!
yes it seems the garbage channel has upgraded their equipment very nicely. new logo bottom left of screen in HD finally. Now if they can get their newscast to be in HD first in OKC i just might die. oh yea they really need to fix their sd feed when they show shows not in hd, it looks god awful. SD will be around for much much longer even with hd rollin in. if KFOR can fix that id be happy.
Cant really blame KFOR for the crawl. It likely originates out of the DOC in Norfolk VA
I spent several days in Southern California during the Olympics and brought the EyeTV tuner for the laptop Mac. I took a second look when the channel 4 logo was NOT on the screen. Yup, NO local channel logo in LA. Nothing but the NBC logo.
So I have a suggestion for KFOR. Drop the “4″ logo and use the equipment generating the channel 4 logo to put a HD weather map on the HD feed when there are tornado warnings in the state.
Above all. I really appreciate the quantity of great HD during the Olympics and pray that no local storms occur for the rest of the coverage! It reminds me of the 24/7 HD coverage we had during the 2002 Winter games on KFOR.
Yes, but you can almost feel KFOR salivating at getting back to its crappy SD picture as soon as the torch is extinguished.
NBC doesn’t do anything to rein them in, apparently. (NBC has its own issues. Why are the Olympic commercials for “Deal or No Deal” in HD but the show itself is not?)
There are two basic possibilities for the HD goodness we’ve seen at KFOR over the past 17 days:
1. The station has turned over a new leaf, actually cares about presenting a quality HD picture, and will continue to upgrade and invest in HD going forward, or
2. They’ve had Mike Morgan tied to a chair during his off-air hours for the past two weeks, assuring him that as soon as the Olympics are over, he’ll be able to get back to his little red button and pull the premiere of Heroes off the air with live streaming coverage of a stiff breeze in Amarillo.
Given that during the closing ceremony, KFOR dropped the HD picture into its still-crappier-than-anyone-else’s SD for twenty minutes for absolutely no discernible reason (no weather maps, no local break-ins, no crawls, nothing—just no HD), I’d set the odds of the above two scenarios at 50-50.
mdeatherage im goin with #1. it is 2:07 am and conan is in brillant hd fashion. KFOR used to show the up all night with leno and bryan in sd only. It may be an NBC thing too but i do believe i remember seein kjrh(tulsa) with conan in hd at 3 am while kfor was in sd. i think kfor is actually payin somebody to do the hd swithc overnight or bought equipment to automatically do it. im bettin the closin cereomy thing was a goof with all the new equip brought in and miss communication. NOW if they can ditch that god awful SD and either get rid of(make hd look better) the subchannel or update it more than just morning time id be happy. didnt nbc buy the weather channel? we’ll probably see a change soon.