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Is KOCO-DT off the Air?

I saw something about this a day or two ago, but I just noticed I haven’t been able to pick up KOCO-DT all day? Did they get knocked off the air by the snow?

Dennis

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  1. mdeatherage
    Posted January 31, 2010 at 11:28 pm | Permalink

    I’ve got KOCO-DT in 720p from DirecTV over the satellite, but 5-1 OTA has no signal.

  2. ggore
    Posted February 1, 2010 at 4:50 am | Permalink

    Good to know, I was thinking the reason my cable system wasn’t receiving their off-air signal was because of ice on the antennas or something, but we are receiving KWTV’s VHF signal just fine off the same antennas. We haven’t received any communication from KOCO about it, which isn’t unusual, they never tell cable operators what’s going on like the other stations do. Maybe their piddly temporary antenna one-third the way up their tower fell off and they’ll have put a new one on top and go up to their fully-allotted power level now. Last time I got someone there to answer my call, they said they had no current plans to ever do that.

  3. Aurora5000
    Posted February 1, 2010 at 7:18 am | Permalink

    From koco.com

    Statement Regarding KOCO-TV’s Signal
    Stay Tuned To KOCO.com For Updates

    Last week’s winter storm across Oklahoma has affected us here at KOCO-TV, and it affects your ability to receive our signal — over-the-air and through DISH Network.
    Over The Air
    Due to severe icing on the KOCO tower, which affects our signal, power has been reduced to our antenna. What this means is that many of you will not be able to receive our over-the-air signal.
    As soon as conditions allow, the signal will be increased again.
    We are monitoring the situation closely, and we will keep you advised on KOCO.com.
    DISH Network
    Wintry weather has also affected KOCO’s signal through DISH Network at the satellite company’s receive point.
    DISH subscribers can get KOCO’s standard-definition feed, but not our high-definition signal.
    Subscribers who normally watch KOCO-TV in HD on DISH Network should tune into our SD channel on either channel 7 or channel 8890 on the DISH system.
    We apologize for the inconvenience, and we will keep you apprised of updates on KOCO.com.

  4. El Robo
    Posted February 1, 2010 at 9:00 am | Permalink

    How come KOCO TV is the only station in Oklahoma City that has this problem?
    They are all with-in a stones throw each other in north Oklahoma City and none of the other stations had this problem!

    Also I would think since I was able to receive both channel NBC Ch4, CBS Ch 9 and Fox 25 and the other Oklahoma City Stations in HD on Dish.

    I thought Dish and DirecTV would receive their local stations signal via satellite or special phoneline that should not be effected by the ICE?

  5. Posted February 1, 2010 at 10:53 am | Permalink

    This is pretty disappointing. It looks like I’ll have to look someplace online to watch Lost when it premieres tomorrow…

    Dennis

  6. trueview
    Posted February 1, 2010 at 4:55 pm | Permalink

    after I punched in 7-1 I started receiving channel “5.”

  7. shouyi
    Posted February 1, 2010 at 8:10 pm | Permalink

    I think part of reason KOCO is different is because it’s a VHF signal vs everyone else’s UHF signal. Which I hated – requires a much larger antenna.

  8. rickster
    Posted February 2, 2010 at 8:52 am | Permalink

    YES–KOCO is indeed different.
    It’s the only station I never get on
    my kitchen DTV

  9. servicetech
    Posted February 8, 2010 at 8:09 am | Permalink

    They are the tough signal to get. I had to put up an outdoor antenna for KOCO, tried 2 PC tuners before finding one that would lock onto the signal. It wasn’t a strength issue, I tried a 10db attenuator thinking the outdoor antenna was too strong, results were the same.

    A lot of the programming we watch is on ABC, so KOCO is a “requirement” to stay off pay TV. It was a pain to get it working but we finally got it :) We didn’t even loose signal when KOCO reduced power recently.

  10. B.Williams
    Posted February 24, 2010 at 5:30 pm | Permalink

    I think KOCO is pulling a “Toyota” on us. They have a defective product and NO idea how to fix it. I live about halfway between Chickasha and Lawton and get all the Oklahoma City channels without any pixelling out, without any locking up and they all come in somewhere between 95 and 100 percent strength. That is with the exception of KOCO, which if I’m lucky may peak just under 50 percent every once in a while. Their tower is within a mile of other towers broadcasting in VHF frequencies that have no problems. Channel 7 in Lawton has been off the air and not using that frequency for over a year now. No excuse they’ve given so far makes any sense. How can all these problems only effect one station and none of the others?

  11. ggore
    Posted February 25, 2010 at 4:25 am | Permalink

    When KOCO put their digital antenna up, they put it only 1/3 the height of their tower, which was necessary in order not to interfere with KSWO channel 7 in Lawton. Another necessary step was to aim that antenna signal away from Lawton, which means the fast majority of their signal goes in a northwest-souteast arc and very little signal goes anywhere else.
    Now that the analog shutoff has occurred, their old analog transmitter antenna is just sitting there atop their tower unused while they use the digital antenna way down below. All the other stations either moved their antennas to the top of their towers, put up permanent antennas to replace temporary ones, or made changes in their transmitter patterns so that they now fully cover their licensed service areas, while KOCO has done nothing. Our cable system’s last communication with KOCO indicated that they have no current plans to ever begin transmitting from the top of their tower or ever fully cover their licensed area. We have heard nothing from them on the subject in the past year.

  12. B.Williams
    Posted February 25, 2010 at 7:54 pm | Permalink

    I got this e-mail from KOCO just this past week:

    Your viewership is important to KOCO.

    Since the transition, the entire industry (television stations, the FCC and manufacturers) have learned a great deal about the differences with digital VHF signals. Previously, these differences were only theoretical. Now they are actual, a great deal of work is being done to address them. Be assured this is happening all over the country. Not just in Oklahoma City.

    We intend to make changes to improve the signal pattern as soon as we can. These changes include top mounting a new antenna on top of our tower. This is an extremely complex and expensive project that we only get one chance to get it right. So, we are being very methodical as we proceed. Unfortunately, this project will some time to complete. But, we anticipate completing the project in the spring.

    Please know these changes will specifically address coverage issues in your area. Your patience and understanding is appreciated.

    I hope this information is helpful.

    David Evans
    Director of Engineering
    KOCO TV
    405-478-6631 O

    It sounds like a bunch of gibberish to me. I haven’t heard of this happening to stations all over the country. Channels 9 and 13 are broadcasting in VHF on towers less than a mile away from KOCO’s tower, and they’re not having all that many problems.

  13. ggore
    Posted February 26, 2010 at 6:31 am | Permalink

    Channel 9 has major problems with their VHF signal and are doing something about it. They turned their UHF 39 transmitter back on and are in the process of upping its power and have petitioned the FCC for permission to abandon their VHF channel. Our cable system receives a much stronger and more reliable UHF signal from them even though they are not yet at full power. KOCO on the other hand, sits there and talks about “plans”. Top-mounting their antenna is something they should have been ready to do on the day of the analog shutdown like 99% of the stations in the country. They were given a UHF-DT assignment in the beginning but they protested, wanting to stay on VHF, and not only that, on the SAME channel as another station 90 miles away! Hearst-Argyle screwed this up royally right from the start.

  14. B.Williams
    Posted February 26, 2010 at 4:54 pm | Permalink

    From where I sit, I get channel 9.1 around 94 – 95 percent strength, and 39.1 pegs out over 100 percent. I’ve not noticed problems with 9.1 VHF broadcast. 13.1 & 13.2 hit me between 85 – 90 percent strength. They seem to be doing quite well on VHF. From the back side of my antenna, I’m getting 11.1, 11.2, and 11.3 VHF (KSWO). Of all the VHF signals I get, KOCO is the only one that cannot stay above the minimum acceptable signal strength.

    I wonder if their advertisers understand that KOCO’s signal doesn’t cover a fraction of their audience.

  15. servicetech
    Posted February 26, 2010 at 9:16 pm | Permalink

    I don’t think KOCO is too concerned, most people get their signal through a pay TV service. It would be interesting to see how many get local channels OTA vs. using a pay service.

  16. B.Williams
    Posted February 26, 2010 at 10:41 pm | Permalink

    I’m wanting to drop the local channels package from my satellite service and save some money, but don’t have a reliable ABC affiliate. It’s KOCO that causes me to get the locals from a pay service. (They’re the only one I watch through the dish, I get better local service with my antenna than what the dish provides.)

  17. ggore
    Posted February 27, 2010 at 6:04 am | Permalink

    I think Servicetech is right, Hearst-Argyle/KOCO doesn’t care about over-the-air broadcasting and thinks most people get their networks along with a satellite package. They had their signals removed from all translators a few years ago, while the rest are still up and running. A good portion do get their TV through satellite, but I would wager a lot more get it over the air.

    Which brings up another problem, since KSBI has no translators in northwest Oklahoma, we can’t receive their DT-51 signal because of a KOCB translator signal on channel 51 on the Seiling tower. There isn’t much worth watching on KSBI but an occasional Thunder game would be nice.

  18. quanah
    Posted March 2, 2010 at 4:03 pm | Permalink

    Something wrong all over the country? Both 9 and 10 in Waco perform as well as expected. Ditto 8 and 11 in Dallas. Chance of KCEN and KWTX or WFAA and KTVT seeking move to UHF? Non existant. Your 7 and 9 have something amiss.

  19. B.Williams
    Posted March 2, 2010 at 5:47 pm | Permalink

    It appears to me that Channel 11 in Dallas is not happy with their VHF.

    On June 12, 2009, KTVT moved its digital broadcasts from channel 19 to channel 11. Due to widespread reception problems and a resulting loss of 57 percent of KTVT viewers, the station was granted permission via special temporary authorization by the FCC to move back to channel 19 on July 23, 2009. On the same day, sister station KTXA was given permission via an STA to move back to channel 18, its transition period channel. The channel change went into effect on August 4, 2009. Prior to the channel change, KTXA was simulcasting KTVT’s programming on 21.2. KTVT broadcasts on channel 11 and on channel 19 and both stations use the virtual channel “11.1″ causing many digital TV receivers to show channel 11.1 twice when tuning sequentially.

    On September 10, 2009, the FCC issued a Report & Order, approving KTVT’s move from channel 11 to channel 19. On October 21, 2009, they filed a minor change application for their new allotment, which the FCC granted them a construction permit on November 19, 2009. Once construction of KTVT’s maximized facilities ends, and file a License to Cover afterwards, then KTVT can terminate operations on channel 11 and operate solely on channel 19 permanently.

  20. quanah
    Posted March 3, 2010 at 7:24 am | Permalink

    Thanks, B. Williams. The last I talked to KTVT (11) they were pleased. Last summer.
    WFAA (8) is the most viewed of the Dallas big network stations and all is well on cable systems such as Waco’s overbuilder Grande,Temple’s Centrovision, and Durant, OK Communicomm. Waco, Temple, Killeen Time Warner dumped WFAA 8 Dec. 31, 2008. Grande picks WFAA 8 off air easier and better than the analog days, as does Centrovision’s four single cut 8 antennas at Moody.

    KUSA 9 Denver, and KCEN 9 Waco tell me all is well. KCEN is irked because a Fort Worth station is broadcasting on 9 at the Cedar Hill tower farm. I’m surprised the FCC permitted this. WFAA (8) did use DT 9 until the transition.

    Fox 44 in Waco may request a new frequency, so they tell me. No number given.

    KCEN 9 now has HD local news, weather, sports. Not bad for a Lawton/WF sized market.

  21. quanah
    Posted March 3, 2010 at 7:53 am | Permalink

    B. Williams,

    Now I learn that the FCC has rejected KTVT’s use of ch 11 due to interference to Gray owned stations ch 12 in Ardmore-Sherman-Denison and Ch 10 in Waco. It appears the FCC is mandating ch 19.

    Details on interference patterns are available at the FCC website.

    I’ll study this further. I hope I’m understanding all of this.

  22. B.Williams
    Posted March 3, 2010 at 10:18 pm | Permalink

    KXII in Ardmore Sherman Denison broadcasts on channel 20 UHF and is not bothered by VHF channel 11, and it’s hard for me to believe that a Denver, Colorado station is bothered by a station in Fort Worth, Texas. Oh, my gosh, there’s a station in Fairbanks, Alaska using channel 11 also! I hope that doesn’t bother them.

  23. quanah
    Posted March 4, 2010 at 7:26 am | Permalink

    The reference to KUSA Denver was simply to illustrate some stations like high VHF.

    Now I’m finding requests by tons of VHF stations for power increases. KCAU ch 9 in Souix City, IA tells me the FCC did not delagate enough power for VHF stations. KCAU, along with many other stations do not want a move to UHF. Some VHF (including low VHF) stations are seeking up to quadruple power increases.

    CH 10 in Waco broadcasts 25,000 watts. Old analog 10 used 316,000 watts, reduced to 204,000 watts after DT 53 turned on. Ch 10 tells me all is well, so far. However, I believe they too would welcome a power increase.

  24. JWVoiceovers
    Posted March 4, 2010 at 11:43 am | Permalink

    If I’m not mistaken, last year KXII in Sherman/Denison moved from UHF 20 back to their original VHF 12 during the DTV Transition.

  25. Cowboy
    Posted March 10, 2010 at 9:54 am | Permalink

    KXII Sherman/Denison/Ardmore does now broadcast DTV on VHF 12. KTVT 11 in Fort Worth could not increase their power to adequate levels without causing interference for KXII 12 and therefore moved to UHF 19.

  26. quanah
    Posted March 10, 2010 at 10:26 am | Permalink

    Thanks, Cowboy. Ch 10 in Waco has moved power up to 39,000 watts.

    One thing that confuses me. I didnt think DT could have adjacent channel interference. FCC tells me the power increase for ch 11 was denied because of interference to 12 and 10.

    12 and 10 are owned by Gray Broadcasting.

    Waco has ch 9 (25,000 watts) and ch 10 (39,000 watts). Transmitters are about 9 km apart.

    I’m confused.

  27. Cowboy
    Posted March 10, 2010 at 7:52 pm | Permalink

    I think the rule is that Adjacent VHF DTV channel transmitters must be spaced less than 14.9 miles or greater than 68.35 miles. UHF transmitters have adjacent channel spacing requirements something like that also.

  28. Cowboy
    Posted March 10, 2010 at 8:02 pm | Permalink

    However, KWTX 10 in Waco is more than 80 miles from Cedar Hill where the KTVT 11 DFW transmiiter is located. KXII 12 transmits from just south of Madill and is about 100 miles from 11 in Cedar Hill.

  29. Aurora5000
    Posted April 5, 2010 at 7:58 am | Permalink

    From koco.com

    Eyewitness News 5 has received a new digital antenna to help improve its over-the-air signal.

    The state-of-the-art antenna stands nearly 1,500 feet high and uses an omni-directional, multi-polar signal that should help viewers tune in KOCO-TV better.

    Construction crews will take the old analog antenna down from the tower and replace it with the new one over the next few weeks.

  30. Aurora5000
    Posted April 5, 2010 at 8:00 am | Permalink
  31. Cowboy
    Posted April 5, 2010 at 11:04 pm | Permalink

    KTEN Ada, Ardmore, Sherman- Denison is apparently adding ABC as digital 10.3 in HD in May. KTEN broadcasts on UHF 26 from a 1,400 foot tower about 10 miles north of Tishomingo.
    Should allow southern Oklahoma to have full network coverage locally over the air. Something they have never had.

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